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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Hello, I purchased a (early) 1967 Kadett B Wagon here in the US a few weeks back. Originally it was purchased to fix and resell. My wife fell in love with the car so it looks like I will be adding a new Opel to my existing Opel collection. I also have a 1975 Ascona (1900 here in the states), and I bought my son a 1974 Manta luxus for his first car.
I paid a $100.00 (USD) for it. Here in the States Opel Kadett Caravans are getting pretty rare especially kadetts with 1.1L motors. Most were imported with 1.9L motors and what 1.1L models were here were discarded or used for what parts interchanged. There really is not much information over here on the 1.1L motors so I have been reading as much as I can on this sight. Looks like Germans love this motor! I will be in need of some help once I get to working on it. Thought this would be a good place to start. Sorry, I do not know German so I will be posting in English. I have been using a translator to read this forum. Thanks for all the help that I have received so far from members of this forum. George. 
Just got to it's new temporary home.

Extra parts. You can not tell but there is about 30 cm of water in the bottom.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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21.11.09 15.09 |
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Big-Elch
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Dabei seit: 14.04.04
Herkunft: Wolfenbüttel
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I wish you good luck and success with your very rare Modell ( it´s a Caravan, and a "bis-Modell" ( until 1967) ) !!
Bernd
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21.11.09 18.37 |
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HondaDax
Dabei seit: 18.11.09
Herkunft: Hamburg
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Good Evening Sir ;)
Very nice Kadett in mind Condition :finger:
Good Luck with ur wifes Dreamcar
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21.11.09 20.10 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Thanks,
Far from mint condition but is a solid unit. No rust in the floor pan and trunk floor. Some rust in the lower outer panels. I have not tried to start it yet. I was told that they parked it because they thought it had a bad connecting rod bearing. Do these engines have anything else that might knock but be a easy fix? He said he thought someone told him that the oil pump could be making the noise and I read here that the chain tensioner makes noise sometimes too. If so could they be mistaken for a rod knock?
A few more pictures.

__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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21.11.09 21.20 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Did some clean up.
Tried to turn engine by hand. Got about a turn and it locked up. Now I cannot get it to turn ether direction. Looks like I will have to pull the motor to see what is up.
Can the 1.1 engine be safely bored out to a 1.2 or 1.3? If this motor needs to be bored I would like to go to 1.2 pistons and rings since they are more plentiful and cheaper.

__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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24.11.09 18.58 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Kann die 1,1-Motor in der Lage sich zu langweilen werden, um ein 1.2 oder 1.3? Wenn dieser Motor braucht um sich zu langweilen möchte ich auf 1,2 Kolben und Ringe zu gehen, da sie mehr sind reichlich vorhanden und billiger.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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25.11.09 16.38 |
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Kurt
Dabei seit: 01.03.07
Herkunft: Österreich
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The 1,1 engine can be make bigger to 1,2 bore. The stroke is the same also the crankshaft.
Pistons and Pistonrings can you take from the Kadett C 1,2
But for more horsepower you need also the two flow exhaustpipe and the bigger Valves or complete Head from Kadett C 1,2.
Also the Carpurator is bigger of 1,2 an the sparkbalance diagram is by the 1,2 not the same as the 1,1.
My english is not very good but i hope you can read my text and understand it.
Best regarts
Kurt
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25.11.09 16.47 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Danke Kurt,
Dein Englisch ist besser als mein Deutsch.
Also nehme ja verstehen, dass die 1,1 langweilen kann aus, um eine 1,2. Der Vergaser und Zündzeitpunkt und Ventil Größe ist anders. Teile von einem Kadett c Austausch wird.
Ich freue mich auf die Einrichtung von ein 32mm Einlass-und ein 29mm Auslassventile in den Kopf des Motors für eine bessere Atmung. Ich hier, dass man fast das Doppelte des breating des Motors durch dies zu tun.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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25.11.09 23.30 |
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FSC 72
B-kloppter

Dabei seit: 28.07.04
Herkunft: Sittard, Holland
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Nur zur Aufklärung:
Just for clearification:
Wenn der George von langweilen spricht meint er das aufbohren vom Zylinder weil "boring" ja auch Langeweile heisst in English. Manchmal sind die Internet-Übersetzer zimmlich lustig.
George: I've explained some faults in your translator because when you use the term "to bore" (from 1.1 to 1.2) the translator gives the translation from "boring"
These technical translations can be quite funny sometimes
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26.11.09 08.23 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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Thanks, FSC 72
I have read a lot of this forum using a translator so I know how bad it can be sometimes. Sometimes it translates quite well, and some times I wonder it the translator is working properly. Must be the choice of words different people use. It is interesting though. Glad that I am coming across funny and not insulting.
Not a lot of info on the OHV engines here in the States and so much info here. Thanks,
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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26.11.09 19.24 |
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Kurt
Dabei seit: 01.03.07
Herkunft: Österreich
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no problem it´s ok
we understand you
__________________ ...nichts ist tot bevor es nicht vergraben ist!
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27.11.09 08.16 |
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Mopar
Dabei seit: 15.04.04
Herkunft: Raunheim/Hessen
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Hi,
I'm not quite sure, but I think there have been issues with the thickness of the cylinder wall, when you bore the 1.1 to 1.2 specifications.
Maybe one of the OHV-cracks can clarify this.
The head with the bigger valves (in fact only bigger outlet valves: dia 29mm) is from an Opel Corsa A. A small FWD car (smallest Opel model since the early 80s) which could be ordered with a 1.2-version of the OHV-engine.
This Corsa also features an electronic ignition without the fast-aging contact.
So maybe it would make sense for you, if you bought a 1.2S short block, together with one of those Corsa-heads and the Corsa ignition here in Germany (preferably from one of the friendly forum members here ;) ) and have it shipped to the US. Those parts are pretty common here and usually not that expensive (especially here in this friendly forum ;) ). Shipping will be the bigger issue, but still no neck-braker.
If you want to go all the way, reprotec, a small company by one of the members here, offers a great deal of reproduction parts for Kadett B and, interesting for you, hotter camshafts.
User "Smeagol" here, offers most of the usual engine parts like rockers, taps, gaskets, and so on.
On the induction side, you do not come a long way in terms of performance, with the original carb. German ebay usually offers update Kits to a single Weber side draft.
So together with the block and head you could have all the necessary parts shipped, to build yourself a nice little OHV with approximately 80 - 85 Horses (DIN horses, of course ;) )
Funny thing is, that in Germany, the 1.9-version is the highly seeked one. Because it's so damn rare.
Good luck restoring your CarAVan. Keep us informed.
__________________ Gru?
Matthias
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
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Thanks for the info. I think I finally found some 1.1 piston rings here is the States. A price I can not pass up. Supposedly they have the rod and main bearings too. I will look into putting larger valves in later. I will probably try and pick up another block to rebuild so I might look into a 1.2 if a 1.1 can not be bored that big. George.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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12.01.10 02.47 |
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
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Hello, I will be tearing down the engine this spring to overhaul it. I would like to know if anyone has a link for a "how to improve the cylinder head". I know larger valves are common, but I was wondering if there is any info on porting, and improving airflow through the head. Thanks, George.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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inspector.kadett
G´studierter Braxer

Dabei seit: 14.04.04
Herkunft: München-Obersendlin
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hi George!
i´m not sure but i think its worth a try.
the vauxhaull chevette (in GB) is known here as kadett C and I think in the US its sold as chevrolet chevette (from 1979-82 also on the german market). In these models they had the common small ohv engine with "boring" 1.3 litres. (79,3 cui!!)
important remark: the inlet and the exhaust manifolds are little wider so they dont match from the 1.2 or 1.1 if you manage to get a 1.3 litre make sure it´s complete.
I think it would be very interesting for this forum if you get any new and reliable informations on that.
good luck
Benno
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ghcoe

Dabei seit: 13.11.09
Herkunft: U.S.A
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That would have been to easy. I do believe all the Chevettes and T1000's we got were re-engine. Pictures show the air cleaner on the wrong side and parts references show 1.4 and 1.6 liter engines. If I were to guess they were Isuzu engines.
__________________ George.
1975 Opel Ascona 1.9L 4SP (1900 in the U.S)
1974 Opel Manta 1.9L Luxury Car Model
1967 Opel Kadett Wagon 1.1L 4SP
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